Apologies to Jazz point John Lucas III but in these parts when someone drops the name "John" it really only refers to one person. The name-drop is usually paired with a second name but not a surname. John and Karl like bread and butter like pick and roll.

We get it. We know who John is.

But Trey Burke being new here and trying to be helpful offered clarification as training camp opened this week as he tried to answer a question about the need to be patient in his development as the next point guard to follow the path carved by a certain No. 12.

"I think that’s a point that John" Burke said before cutting himself off to make a clarification "John Stockton was telling me about as well."

Stockton the Hall of Famer watched Burke in summer league. He saw Burke make mistake after mistake in Orlando shoot 1 for 19 from 3-point range and invite the scorn of the sorts of folks who expected the NBA Draft’s No. 9 pick to be more well Stocktonesque.

And when Burke joined Jazz shooting guard Alec Burks in Spokane Wash. last month to learn from the NBA’s all-time assists leader Stockton told Burke he was rushing and that’s why he looked lost in the offense.

"He said the better passer you are the better scorer you’re going to be" Burke recalled.