If there was any doubt the 4-3 OT loss to the Los Angeles Kings was a tough one Chris Neil was still wearing the battle scars Thursday morning to prove it.

The Senators' rugged winger had stitches in his nose and a black eye after taking a puck in the face and was going to need X-rays to see if it was broken. Not that it would make any difference and it wouldn't be the first time anyway.

"If there's a fracture in my nose there's not much they can do. It's not as if they can cast it. Maybe Jimmy O'Brien they could cast but not me" said Neil with a smile.

(No he doesn't plan to wear a visor next game.)

"I threw my jersey to our massage guy Shawn (Markwick) and I said 'Get the blood out of it and get me back out there" said Neil.

But Neil didn't mind pointing out that those who want to take fighting out of the game because they feel it's dangerous might want to see if they can do something about pucks and sticks since they can cause just as much damage.

"The doctors said if there is a fracture it's just a hairline" said Neil. "Everybody is going on about fighting with injuries and stuff.

"You see just as many injuries other ways with pucks sticks. It's a fluke accident. Everybody goes on about the (George) Parros thing in Montreal and to me that's considered a fluke accident as well. It happens time and time again.

"As players that's what we get into and that's why we get paid what we get paid."

This is going to be a tough road trip and the Senators know it. They were able to salvage a point in Hollywood by coming back from a 3-0 deficit. They know it doesn't get any easier and they are still trying to form team chemistry.