The Senators know their problem. The coaching staff addressed it fully firmly and finally on Friday.

Too many penalties have equalled too many shots against.

If it keeps up the players were told at a Sensplex practice in preparation for

Saturday's visit by the Edmonton Oilers it won't just be this game that is lost.

It will also be the season.

Too soon for such talk?

Not in Paul MacLean's mind.

"They had 12 shots on the power play (Thursday) night" MacLean said of a 5-2 victory over the New Jersey Devils despite his team being outshot 42-23 taking the over the league lead in a category they can't win -- most average shots allowed per game. "Take those away and it's only 30 shots on goals which is the average in the league.

"The amount of penalties we take certainly leads to us playing in our end too much and them getting shots on our net. And that's never a good recipe.

"There's no chance of success if that continues to happen."

Only the Philadelphia Flyers have spent more time than the Senators killing penalties this season. Ottawa has been shorthanded for a grand total of 59 minutes and 18 seconds - or almost one full game.

The Senators have only played seven. Considering the disadvantages they've been at it's surprising they've won three and grabbed a point from two others.

"It's all back and forth stops and starts and your legs are burning" defenceman Marc Methot said of all the extra burden being placed on the shorthanded units. "So second third period rolls around and you've already killed six penalties "¦ it certainly takes a toll on your body. It's something that we've got to cut out because I know that we're going to burn out pretty fast if we keep going at this rate."

And with all the shots being surrendered goalies Craig Anderson and Robin Lehner are going to be reduced to babbling fools by the end of the season at this rate.