Since he entered the NBA in 2003, LeBron James has been talked about as one of the greatest ever to play the game of basketball. He’s openly stated many times over the years that his ultimate goal is to be the greatest of all time, and now he firmly believes he will be.

In an interview with NBA TV analyst Steve Smith that will air on Monday at 9 p.m. Eastern time, James was asked to name his personal Mount Rushmore, the four greatest NBA players of all time.

His first three selections were wholly expected: Michael Jordan, Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. James called them the “easy three,” the no-brainer choices.